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Suddenly we had a real, live, general strike. It is very good for you!

Socialist Outlook no. 15 · 3,501 words

The Meaning of May 1968

"Suddenly we had a real, live, general Strike!"

THIRTY years ago, a wave of struggles erupted in France which shook the European ruling

classes and opened up new possibilities for the left. How do marxists view their

importance? What are the lessons of the May-June events of 1968? Should they be looked

back upon as grand moments of past history, or seen as reminders of unfinished political

business that still confronts us today? JOHN LISTER interviewed DANIEL BENSAID, then a

prominent leader of the student movement at Nanterre university and now a leading member

of the Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire, French section of the Fourth International.

Could you speak a little on the background to the events of 1968? Everybody saw at once

that the students were fighting hack against attacks on their rights; but what were the

issues that mobilised the working class?

Much of the debate and reinterpretation of these events in France, especially among

those who have broken with revolutionary politics, tends to insist on the cultural,

ideological aspects of 1968. But what gave the 1968 events real weight, at least in

France, was the combination of the student mobilisation – which also happened in

countries like Japan and the United States – with the general strike. It seems to me

too much forgotten now; but it was a real general strike of between eight and ten million

workers which lasted three weeks.

What did it mean? Maybe we tended to overestimate the political content of the strike.

Obviously it opened up the possibility of a political crisis. But at the same time we have

to say what the limits of that general strike were. Some democratic demands were raised

against the strong state of [French president] De Gaulle, a rigid archaic state with very

concentrated power; and there were a series of economic, material demands to raise the

standard of living; but the fact is that even given the big wave of the movement, the

enormous general strike, the politicisation remained small.

There was no big crisis in the reformist parties. For example, the communist party

(CP), in spite of its line, obtained good results in the 1969 elections, and it was

relatively well able to channel most of the radicalisation. There was no big crisis in the

unions either: they grew a lot, especially in the middle-sized and smaller factories.

There were no big breaks like we had in France in 1945-47 after the war. There was a

break, but of a very limited layer of youth and workers which gave room for a new far

left; this is significant because it still exists, but it was a very small break.

The possibilities for action changed, but not the relationship of forces. That, I

think, is to do with the limits, the dynamics of the general strike itself. There was also

a difference with Italy in terms of self-organisation. There were factory occupations,

yes, but very few elected strike committees or mass meetings. The union officials

maintained control and organisation throughout the strike.

Sometimes the commentaries tend to identify the birth of social movements such as the

women’s movement with 1968. In reality in France this came as a result, if you like,

of the ‘68 events, but two or even three years later. The distinctive demands of the

women’s movement did not appear in 1968.

I think it was a transitional general strike, which remained under the control of the

reformist leaderships, and which, in the framework of the functioning welfare state of the

time, served to win more space and social gains, winning back some things that had been

lost under the De Gaulle government.

There had been some social security measures designed to increase the weight of the

state and the employers against the trade unions, but this was one point which was not won

in the so-called agreement. In fact there was no real agreement. There were negotiations

but, since the results were rejected in some Renault plants, they remained only as a basis

for decentralised agreements. There was no global agreement as there had been in 1936. The

main points conceded were on wages, and on trade union rights, but there was no agreement

on social security.

The 1968 stoppage was never actually called as a general strike, was it?

No, that’s the other point. It was a general strike, but a de facto general

strike. Nobody had raised the slogan of a general strike. This is very important, and not

a small point. The argument from the union bureaucracies, especially the (communist

party-led) CGT, was that ‘we don’t need to call for a general strike because it

already exists’: so to call for it would be ‘artificial’,

‘useless’ and so on.

But it could have changed the meaning of the strike, because if they had called for a

general strike, they would have been obliged to decide on what general platform they would

call it, and the decision to call it off would have had to be a general decision too, with

consultations. Secondly, if it had been declared a general strike it would have raised

another question on the political preconditions to negotiate: whether they would negotiate

with that government, or ask for De Gaulle to be removed before talks began.

Despite the limitations of the strike and dynamics of the movement, there were

possibilities to open up a political crisis. We don’t say now, twenty years later, it

would have been an immediate revolution; but it was possible to open up a political crisis

in the context of the 1960s.

Obviously many things have changed, and nobody knows exactly what might have been

possible, but 1968 changed the situation in France and in Europe in the early 1970s. We

are not discussing whether there could have been a revolution, but the fact that the

strength of the movement, in spite of its limitations, promised much more than was

achieved.

Obviously the communist party line was central to this outcome?

Absolutely. If we re-read today the literature of the big parties of 1968, mainly the

communist party, we see how they were obsessed with the idea of provocation and plots.

They were trying to find an answer to the changes in French society, in which, for the

first time, the working class was in the majority. So they had developed the idea of a new

coalition of social forces, expressed at the electoral level by the ‘union of the

left’ (yet the gaullists kept winning more and more elections). At the same time they

thought the socialist party (SP) had been pushed to the side by its capitulations on the

Algerian War. In a real sense the SP was very reduced in influence in 1968, so the CP

thought there could be an opening for them, like the Italian CP, to become the major party

of the left and to grow step by step through elections. All this was being disturbed by

the 1968 events.

They were also concerned to control the mass movement. They tried to negotiate a

broadening of union rights which would strengthen the CP by achieving certain gains and by

strengthening its control at the level of union bureaucracy because it legalised a lot of

rights in the factories: delegates, hours, pay, a lot of things which the unions had

wanted. In the end this was the main result of the strike.

Though it did not want to challenge the government, the CP did change its line during

the strike, didn’t it, raising the demand of a ‘popular government’?

Yes, but that was a very short period at the end of the last week of May. It was

between 22 May and 29 May — one week of open political crisis because the agreements

were rejected and there was no possibility of stopping the strike just through that kind

of agreement.

The specificities of the gaullist regime left no channels to reach a consensus or

negotiate: it was very centralised, and the strength of the regime was its weakness when

it was challenged. So there was an opening of a political crisis because De Gaulle

announced on 24 May that they could not find a way out, and called for a referendum.

Everybody, even reformists like Mendes-France and Mitterrand, rejected the referendum.

That could mean an open political crisis. There were two answers. The SP was ready to have

a ‘left government with personalities’; even Mitterrand was ready to propose a

new government based not on parties but on personalities, without exclusions and with

negotiations – which we termed "inclusive bonapartism".

The CP was afraid of being marginalised and out-manoeuvred, so it raised the question

very abstractly of a popular government, not giving this any clear content. But this was

only used to occupy the space for four days. Mitterrand said afterwards in his balance

sheet of 1968 that this was all a manoeuvre, to say ‘we are ready to take our

responsibilities’ so De Gaulle would withdraw the referendum, then dissolve the

assembly and hold elections.

At that time, our position was quite tricky. To raise a governmental slogan in the

radical movement was very unpopular because of widespread hostility to the SP and even the

CP However, we had a general answer which was ‘yes to a popular government: but no to

Mitterrand and Mendes-France!’ At that time, Mitterrand was a bourgeois personality,

he was not personally a member of the SP. He was in a small bourgeois radical group: only

later did he join the SP.

All this lasted just a few days when De Gaulle disappeared to see the army in Germany

and then came back. There was a kind of panic at that time, but it was a very short time.

Do you think now, looking back, that a more concrete governmental slogan would have

been better — something like ‘CP take the power’?

The CP alone could not have taken power. The kind of answer we raised was not very

concrete but was not so bad, and was proven in the struggle. There was a big CP-CGT

demonstration on 13 May or thereabouts. They felt threatened from the right, and

threatened on the left because the day before we had organised a rally which was a mixture

between the new social democratic left and the new far left and the CP was frightened by

this mixture.

They organised their own demonstration – a very big one – and we were the

only current from the left to participate, and we were very small. We came with our slogan

‘popular government, yes: but no Mitterrand and Mendes-France!’, and it was

taken up by people from the CP because it expressed the political issue and a solution and

at the same time showed a mistrust of the manoeuvres of Mitterrand and Mendes-France.

The other difficulty with the general strike not having been called was that to call

for it would also have raised the question of who should negotiate: who should be the

leadership of the general strike – the normal union bodies, or the left? In this

context we have to be conscious of the fact that we as a current had only maybe 400

members, and in the factories we had very little – a few individuals.

Could you say something about the origins of the JCR?

We were expelled from the CP’s youth organisation in 1965 for two reasons. One was

the kind of support we gave to Vietnam; we fought for support and active solidarity with

the National Liberation Front (NLF), against the slogan of ‘peace’ which was the

official CP line. The other was that we opposed the CP decision to back Mitterrand as the

sole candidate in the first round of the 1965 presidential election.

We were expelled in 1965 and formed the Jeunesses Communistes Révolutionnaires (JCR)

in April 1966 with 3-400 members, 90 per cent of whom were students. Our main activity was

Vietnam solidarity and opposition to university reforms, which started at that time.

We participated in the student movement. When the general strike started, it was

obvious we had no real weight to compete: the only thing we could do was to try to

organise and centralise in some way the more radical, dynamic part of the movement,

through the action committees which appeared. This was not real self-organisation, since

the action committees were more like gatherings of radical people. We tried to centralise

these gatherings to gain a little strength to push proposals into the movement.

You referred to the student agitation on Vietnam, and it is obvious that international

events had a big impact on the French events of 1968. Weren’t there also important

developments in Germany with the student movement?

In France there is a tendency to exaggerate the extent of the radicalisation and

politicisation of the youth and student movement before 1968. The real growth came only in

1968, and afterwards. Before, the communist students were the milieu of the maturing of

the radicalisation, and they never reached five thousand members; nor were there such

massive demonstrations before 1968. The radicalisation started with the us bombing of

Hanoi in 1966-67, but the demos were not so big.

I was at Nanterre university, and we called what we considered a big gathering of

people one Sunday — it was 500 people out of 10,000 students at the university. It

was a significant minority of very active people — no more than that. What is

interesting is to compare that with the situation now: then there was a kind of happy,

spontaneous internationalism, a strong identification not only with Vietnam. Vietnam

obviously was centralised, summarised as an issue, imperialism versus black people, a

clear-cut confrontation, everything clear, politics, morals, ethics, everything lining

people on the same side, no problem.

But at Nanterre the movement also took on anti-bureaucratic struggles; there were some

involving students in Warsaw, and other Polish issues.

The Nanterre movement was open to everybody. It had three main axes: it was against

bourgeois education reforms; anti-imperialist, and anti-bureaucratic. The only limitation

on becoming involved – there were no tests, no programme like a party or anything

– was opposition to US intervention in Vietnam: that was the only real criterion that

was used. Then it was all very clear, a unified view of the world was a real

characteristic of those movements.

The German events had a big impact for various reasons. First, we had established some

direct links with the SDS movement of Rudi Dutschke, at the beginning of 1967, with common

conferences, meetings and so on. We co-organised with the SDS a big Berlin demonstration

in February 1968 before the attempted killing of Rudi Dutschke. Quite a big German

delegation had also been here, so there were fairly strong direct links. When Rudi

Dutschke was shot we were in a national conference of the JCR, and we started at once

mobilising street demonstrations which radicalised very quickly.

How do you assess the other movements of that time, for instance the 22 March movement

of students?

The 22 March movement began first at Nanterre university, and changed composition as it

spread. It was a confused political movement. At the beginning there were mainly two

currents: us and the anarchists. The CP youth always opposed it, and there were some

Lambertists (members of Pierre Lambert’s Organisation Communiste Internationaliste,

OCI) who were very concerned with student unionism.

They considered the 22 March movement was an ‘anti-union movement to destroy the

student union. We didn’t consider it was opposed to student unions. So the really

dynamic forces in the 22 March movement were the anarchists and the JCR.

Among the youth, the CP was very marginalised at that time, so there was us and the

Lambertists – very sectarian – and the main current was the maoists who were

growing as a result of the cultural revolution in China in 1966-67. At the beginning of

the 1968 events they were stronger than we were, but we won out in comparison to them

through 1968.

Did the JCR grow fast in 1968?

Yes, we had enormous prestige because we were identified from the beginning with the

radical wing of the movement, with the 22 March. For example on the night of 10 May, the

‘night of the barricades’, sticks in everyone’s imagination because of the

pictures of it, we were the only national political current fully participating.

The growth of the JCR and later of the Ligue came from the combination of two things:

our participation in the movement when the maoists were a bit discredited, and the

campaign of our comrade Alain Krivine in the 1969 presidential elections, when most of the

groups, showing their left infantilism had no idea of utilising those elections. It was

not obvious, and it was particularly difficult to do it, but it was a good idea, and it

was this which within a year gave us a big space to expand.

And after the strike was over, the JCR was made illegal.

We were made illegal, yes, and again in 1973, but it was advantageous in some ways

because if you don’t have the crazy line of the maoists and if you have some real

links with the workers’ movement illegality is a formality and gives a certain

prestige. We had to reorganise for four months, and 20 people were jailed until September

or October, but it was not a big problem for us.

Do you think things could have been done better? Do you think that the potential of

1968 led some people to artificially high expectations?

Obviously it was a high point, with potentialities which were not used, but we should

remember with what strengths we entered 1968. We were formed in 1966, defending the very

idea that the working class still existed, when all kinds of people were arguing that

everyone was bourgeois now. Suddenly within two years we had a real, live general strike.

It is very good for you!

There were obviously other potentialities even for a small organisation if we had only

had more experience and more maturity. The real question you are raising is firstly one of

an estimation of 1968.

This is not an academic question. Should we say was it a mountain or just a small hill?

The truth may be between the two. But what it represents depends on what we do now: if

nothing more happens, then it was just a big peak followed by a general decline. Now is

the moment we must start from.

Some say it was the last big strike of the nineteenth century working class. But

perhaps it was the first big strike of the twenty-first century. We don’t know, and

it depends on what we do now.

A more balanced view of 1968 is not that it was a revolutionary strike – though

sometimes we insist on stressing the political potentialities. A colder assessment shows

that the consciousness of the working class had been formed by the years of prosperity and

expansion, the welfare state, democratic rights. 1968 was not a revolutionary crisis like

those of the 1920s or 1930s: that is true, and sometimes in polemics with the CP we insist

too much on the revolutionary character of the situation.

Perhaps we have been more objective in our polemics with the Lambertists, though at

first we did not know how to express why we felt that the situation was not revolutionary

but was prerevolutionary. Yes, there was a deep movement of the working class that was

shaking the bourgeoisie: but there was no "subjective factor", no revolutionary

leadership rooted strongly in the working class. The strength of the bureaucracy has

something to do with the level of consciousness of broader layers of the working class. We

can now see that better.

It is true that there were also many more illusions in maoist currents, partly because

of the view that the working class was finished. They expected revolution now,

immediately. They went rapidly into decline. Their very illusions, coupled with the

frustrations of what happened in Europe and then in China do not justify but explain why

so many right wing intellectuals have come from maoist currents.

Social democrats tend to interpret 1968 in cultural and sociological terms: some say

1968 was a success because of what the SP was able to do in government — realising

democratic aspirations, legalised abortion, and so on. Of course this is absurd: in many

countries all this and more has been achieved without 1968. It doesn’t explain

anything about the peculiarities of such a movement, why a general strike involving

millions of people took place, and so on.

There is a general move to depoliticise the interpretation of 1968. We have to defend

the real political content and the dynamics of 1968, not just to celebrate but to give it

some present political meaning.

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